goldringers Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Up the road from me, self explanatory:- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Diddy Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Yeah the match was played up the road from you. BUT I actually KNOW Harriet. A nice person, Completely disagree that they should be allowed in women's competition though. Her court case against one of the other pool org's started yesterday in my local court too. Ultimate pool could and should have stuck to their own original decision which was you play either in the open category OR if you were born a woman then you could play in the women's circuit. Harriet is a decent person to speak to. She is pretty good at pool too....although being that I have played cue sports all my life I have to say I have seen much better and personally wouldn't be unhappy to be drawn against her in a pool comp. But she is using this for money in my opinion as she basically asking this lot for £100k to make it all go away. (Think it's the English BlackBall Pool association) which is essentially an armature circuit which kind of makes it worse in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldringers Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 (edited) I'm old school like plenty others, you cannot change your sex because you want to do. Your body genetically is either male or female. There was a case were a woman recently walked off from the world frizby throwing women's final because a trans was allowed to compete in the women's section. She will have a huge advantage due to having a stronger arm through all the w@nking Edited April 8 by goldringers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddy Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Im not so much old school, live and let live is my motto. Do no harm and all that. Treat others as you wish to be treated ect ect. My thoughts on bio men in women's sport are I don't think it's fair in any way. That's it. Even in cue sports - There is a difference, even though there is no strength involved....the data fucking shows that men are better than women - if you just look at the data alone it can't be argued. What people choose to do to their bodies and how they choose to live their life has nothing to do with me. Harriet has went the whole 9 yards - she has "fully" transitioned. It's clearly bigger than a game of pool for "her". But she should accept that regardless of her feelings she was born a man and went through part puberty, she has attributes and hormones that other women don't. She is free to play in the "open" category. Also has been assured that ANYONE making her feel uncomfortable by their words or actions will be removed from the tour and banned...So there is zero reason she should not accompany the few women who DO choose to play in the open tour...rather than the women's tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoponbaby Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Totally agree with you Diddy, the physical advantages are there regardless. Be getting trans men competing against biological men in the world ironing championship next ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddy Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, hoponbaby said: Be getting trans men competing against biological men in the world ironing championship next ffs I suspect there is good reason my misses nearly always buys my stuff which usually turns out to be that wrinkle free/non-iron stuff lol. She thinks I don't notice....im sure it's so she can watch those moronic Australian soaps ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareComputers Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I simply cannot play along with this fiasco... It's not a paintbrush, it's a fucking spade 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareComputers Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 The supreme court have today clarified matters... but I suspect this wont be the end of it 🤬 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddy Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Read a post from Harriet today. Trans rights are still protected characteristic due to atricle.....I forget the number. But the upshot is for Pool in particular we still need to await the outcome of the hearing which was 5 days long at Canterbury court. Judgement expected in June/July. She was/is suing for discrimination.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2905 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 This nonsense really needs to stop. They're men and should compete against other men, stay out of women-only places, and accept that they have rights like everyone else but need to adapt, rather than expect the rest of the world to adapt to them. Too many wierdos and sex offenders have jumped on this trans bandwagon, making it impossible for anything but a black and white ruling in the eyes of the law. I caught a bit of the news yesterday and one of them was claiming they make up 1% of the population. That's a big number and if it's true, then they should start organising their own leagues and competitions rather than trying to gain the advantage over others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 That's that sorted https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg7pqzk47zo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clownfish Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-14642791/Pool-bans-transgender-women-female-category-UK-Supreme-Court-ruling.html Ultimate Pool Group (UPG), the professional body for eight-ball pool, have enforced the law change after two transgender women contested the final of the Women's Pro Series Event earlier this month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2905 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 16 hours ago, Clownfish said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-14642791/Pool-bans-transgender-women-female-category-UK-Supreme-Court-ruling.html Ultimate Pool Group (UPG), the professional body for eight-ball pool, have enforced the law change after two transgender women contested the final of the Women's Pro Series Event earlier this month. Good, i hope he has to pay both sets of legal costs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 On 25/04/2025 at 08:57, daz2905 said: Good, i hope he has to pay both sets of legal costs. The court case was/is against the EBPF who are a different organisation - An amateur organisation staffed by volunteers which makes it worse. So this announcement was made by UP/Ultimate Pool who have basically let the small amateur org take the risk all on their own - Which was/is fucking shameful. UP actually DID have this exact policy and announced it 2-3 years ago and Harriet contacted them right away and threatened to sue and they immediately capitulated and changed their policy to allow Her/him to play in the ladies events. Now that UP have seen the court ruling the other week that stated....well we know what it stated - a man has a cock and a woman tends not to have....NOW all of a sudden UP have grown a pair and decided that only bio women can play in the woman events. They are cowards for allowing it in the 1st place imho. Harriet's case against the EBPF - judgement won't be handed down until June/July time. Her costs are being paid for by A N Other (Some trans rights group who's name escapes me)- The EBPF costs have been crowd funded. I know a wee bit about this because as stated Harriet plays in our league and I play a wee bit of pool around this county. (Can't see the end of the snooker table any more due to deteriorating eyesight - age and glaucoma lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 I have no issues with the Trans community, if Gern wishes to dress like that and visit Crommy Lodges on a Sunday then that is his business. HOWEVER, I am glad that the ruling has been made as it draws a line under it all and I can once more hit Plenty of Fish without fear of being called a transphobe for saying no thanks to Buz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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